Monday Mar 23, 2026

LL012 Fire Keepers

What is required of a fire keeper? On today’s episode, Mike and Kisa unpack what it means to tend to the children in our village long before any of them feel the need to burn it down just to feel its warmth.

They know If they try something and fail, they are loved.  

If they try and succeed, they are loved.  

If they act out in anger, they are loved. 

Even if they don’t get the red plate today, they are loved. 

There is always a road back because we can solve problems together.
 

Kisa can be found at The Playlab Foundation and Mike at Inclusion Includes Us, on Instagram and Facebook. Their books are available at https://www.redleafpress.org/ 

Theme music by John's Black Dirt https://johnsblackdirt.bandcamp.com/album/horrible-moments-of-upness 

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